Robert Ray Bagwell1

M, b. 18 May 1928, d. 21 March 1985
     Robert Ray Bagwell was born on 18 May 1928 in Georgia.1,2 He was the son of Carl Bennett Bagwell and Jeffie Rita Trammell.1 He was a US Marine during World War II.2 Robert Ray Bagwell died on 21 March 1985 in Villa Rica, Carroll County, Georgia, at age 56.2 He was buried at Melrose Hills Memorial Park, Paulding County, Georgia.2

Citations

  1. [S375] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Alpharetta, Milton, Georgia, Emuneration District: 102-8, Supervisor District: 2, Sheet: 6A, Dwelling: 106, Family Number: 107, Date: 1930.
  2. [S5745] Robert Ray Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152510592

George William Cogburn (Cockburne)

M, b. 1746, d. after 4 September 1834
     George William Cogburn (Cockburne) married Elizabeth Snyder. George William Cogburn (Cockburne) was born in 1746 in Newcastle, Great Britain or Scotland. He died after 4 September 1834 in Franklin County, Georgia. His estate was probated on 3 November 1834 at Georgia; Probated, pg 301, Georgia D.A.R. Historical Collections 1925.

Child of George William Cogburn (Cockburne) and Elizabeth Snyder

Elizabeth Snyder

F, d. before 1794
     Elizabeth Snyder married George William Cogburn (Cockburne). Elizabeth Snyder was born in Germany. Her married name was Cogburn (Cockburne). She died before 1794 in Franklin County, Georgia.

Child of Elizabeth Snyder and George William Cogburn (Cockburne)

Silva Fagans

M
     Silva Fagans married Harriett Francis Bagwell, daughter of William Blassingame Bagwell and Amanda Isabell Brashears.

Phereby Emeline Strickland

F, b. 30 May 1827, d. 6 February 1904
Phereby Emeline (Strickland) Bagwell's Tombstone
Flat Creek Baptist Church, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia
Photograph courtesty of Wayne Parker Bagwell
     Phereby Emeline Strickland was also known as Fereby Emeline Strickland. She was born on 30 May 1827 in Flowery Branch, Hall County, Georgia.1,2 She was the daughter of Irvin Strickland and Martha Patsy Crow. As of 22 December 1842,her married name was Bagwell. Phereby Emeline Strickland married Corporal Berry Bagwell, son of John Daniel Bagwell and Rachel Chamblee, on 22 December 1842 at Hall County, Georgia.1,3,2 Phereby Emeline Strickland died on 6 February 1904 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 76.2 She was buried at Flat Creek Baptist Church, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.2

Children of Phereby Emeline Strickland and Corporal Berry Bagwell

Citations

  1. [S1545] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilsons, Hall, Georgia; Enumeration District: 136; Supervisor District: 1; Page: 97A, Dwelling: 78, Family Number: 80, Date: 1880.
  2. [S3922] Phereby Emeline "Emily" Strickland Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  3. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  4. [S3929] Delaney A Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

John Daniel Bagwell

M, b. 12 September 1844, d. 7 July 1905
John Daniel Bagwell's Obituary
Photograph courtesy of Find-A-Grave (Mary Garland Jackson)
     John Daniel Bagwell was born on 12 September 1844 in Hall County, Georgia.1 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland. He enlisted as a private in the 43d GA Infantry Regiment.
43rd Infantry Regiment, organized at Big Shanty, Georgia, in April, 1862, contained men from Cherokee, Pickens, Cobb, Hall, Forsyth, Jefferson, and Jackson counties. The unit moved to Tennessee, then Mississippi where it placed under the command of General Barton in the Department of Mississippi and East Louisiana. It took an active part in the conflicts at Chickasaw Bayou and Champion's Hill, and was captured when Vicksburg fell. After being exchanged, the 43rd was assigned to General Stovall's Brigade, Army of Tennessee. It was prominent in the numerous campaigns of the army from Missionary Ridge to Nashville, and ended the war in North Carolina. In December, 1863, it totalled 283 men and 251 arms, and in November, 1864, there were 130 fit for duty. On April 26, 1865, the unit surrendered. John D. Bagwell became a POW when the 43d was surrendered at the fall of Vicksburg and paroled immediately. Its commanding officers were Colonels Hiram P. Bell, Skidmore Harris, and Henry C. Kellogg, and Major William C. Lester.
Shortly after the Civil War, until the 1950's, some of the finest wagons, buggies, surries, and carriages ever produced came from Gainesville, Georgia. John Daniel Bagwell started Bagwell Manufacturing, a wagon company that employed over 75 people in its hey day. Bagwell was located at the old City Ice site where it turned out 2000-3000 wagons a year.

Bagwell’s sons, Berry and Bob, continued the business until the final wagon was built in 1952 for K. H. Graham. Bagwell’s wagons were sold nationwide and in one brochure they said their wagons were available in “one grade only, the best.” The Bagwell’s are buried in Alta Vista Cemetery. John Daniel Bagwell married Parreness Ann Prather on 7 February 1867 at Hall County, Georgia. John Daniel Bagwell died on 7 July 1905 in Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia, at age 60.1 He was buried at Alta Vista Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.1

Children of John Daniel Bagwell and Parreness Ann Prather

Citations

  1. [S2006] John D Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com.

Parreness Ann Prather

F, b. 1 September 1848, d. 3 October 1914
     Parreness Ann Prather was also known as Preanis Ann Prather. She was born on 1 September 1848 in Fork, Hall County, Georgia.1 As of 7 February 1867,her married name was Bagwell. She married John Daniel Bagwell, son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland, on 7 February 1867 at Hall County, Georgia. Parreness Ann Prather died on 3 October 1914 in Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia, at age 66.1 She was buried at Alta Vista Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.1

Children of Parreness Ann Prather and John Daniel Bagwell

Citations

  1. [S2008] Parreness P Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com.

Martha Jane Bagwell

F, b. 18 August 1846, d. 20 May 1912
     Martha Jane Bagwell was born on 18 August 1846 in Georgia.1 She was the daughter of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 Martha Jane Bagwell married Cicero M. Howington on 28 July 1877 at Hall County, Georgia. Martha Jane Bagwell died on 20 May 1912 at age 65.

Citations

  1. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.

Delaney A. Bagwell

M, b. 5 October 1848, d. 5 October 1852
     Delaney A. Bagwell was born on 5 October 1848 in Hall County, Georgia.1 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 Delaney A. Bagwell died on 5 October 1852 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 4.1 He was buried at Flat Creek Baptist Church Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.1

Citations

  1. [S3929] Delaney A Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Sarah Emaline Bagwell

F, b. 10 August 1850, d. 21 February 1939
Allen Jefferson Gunter and Sarah Emaline (Bagwell) Gunter
Photograph courtesy of Marcie Gunter Caudell
     Sarah Emaline Bagwell was born on 10 August 1850 in Elbert County, Georgia.1 She was the daughter of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland. As of 7 March 1866,her married name was Gunter. Sarah Emaline Bagwell married Allen Jefferson Gunter on 7 March 1866.1 Sarah Emaline Bagwell died on 21 February 1939 in Cleveland, White County, Georgia, at age 88.1 She was buried at Center Grove Baptist Church, Cleveland, White County, Georgia.1

Children of Sarah Emaline Bagwell and Allen Jefferson Gunter

Citations

  1. [S6287] Email from Marcie Gunter Caudell dated August 2020 to Hunter Wayne Bagwell; Subject Line: Email - Marcie Gunter Caudell's Family.

William Ervin Bagwell

M, b. 19 February 1853, d. 20 February 1924
     William Ervin Bagwell was also known as William E. Bagwell. He was born on 19 February 1853 in Hall County, Georgia.1,2 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 William Ervin Bagwell married Ellender (Ella) Amberillis Wingo on 8 January 1874 at Forsyth County, Georgia. William Ervin Bagwell died on 20 February 1924 at age 71.2 He was buried at Mountain View Baptist Church Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.2

Children of William Ervin Bagwell and Ellender (Ella) Amberillis Wingo

Citations

  1. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  2. [S2509] William Ervin Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

James Madison Bagwell

M, b. 28 September 1856, d. 20 October 1924
     James Madison Bagwell was born on 28 September 1856 in Georgia.1,2 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 James Madison Bagwell married Julia Elizabeth Phillips, daughter of Reverend James L. Phillips and Susan Carolina Bagwell, in 1879.2 James Madison Bagwell died on 20 October 1924 in Georgia at age 68.2 He was buried at Alta Vista Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.2

Children of James Madison Bagwell and Julia Elizabeth Phillips

Citations

  1. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  2. [S3920] James Madison Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  3. [S3918] Martha Averilla "Mattie" Bagwell Fraser Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  4. [S3926] Miner A Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  5. [S3925] Sarah E Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

George Franklin Bagwell

M, b. 20 November 1860, d. 20 June 1943
     George Franklin Bagwell was born on 20 November 1860 in Georgia.1,2 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.3,1 George Franklin Bagwell married Emma C. (Mary) Rice on 14 November 1883 at Forsyth County, Georgia. George Franklin Bagwell married Lena Meaders in 1895. George Franklin Bagwell died on 20 June 1943 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 82.2 He was buried at Flowery Branch Cemetery, Flowery Branch, Hall County, Georgia.2

Children of George Franklin Bagwell and Emma C. (Mary) Rice

Children of George Franklin Bagwell and Lena Meaders

Citations

  1. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  2. [S3916] George Franklin Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
  3. [S1545] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilsons, Hall, Georgia; Enumeration District: 136; Supervisor District: 1; Page: 97A, Dwelling: 78, Family Number: 80, Date: 1880.

Dr. Alfred Asbury Bagwell

M, b. 5 September 1863, d. 4 April 1913
Alfred Asbury Bagwell and Julia Dunbar - Marriage Annoucement
The Atlanta Constitution - May 22, 1891 - Page 06
     Dr. Alfred Asbury Bagwell was born on 5 September 1863 in Georgia.1,2,3 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1,2 Dr. Alfred Asbury Bagwell married Julia Dunbar on 21 May 1891 at Flowery Branch, Georgia. Dr. Alfred Asbury Bagwell died on 4 April 1913 in Atlanta, DeKalb County, Georgia, at age 49.3 He was buried at Oakland Cemtery, Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia.3

Citations

  1. [S1545] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilsons, Hall, Georgia; Enumeration District: 136; Supervisor District: 1; Page: 97A, Dwelling: 78, Family Number: 80, Date: 1880.
  2. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  3. [S4754] Dr Alfred Asbury "Mizpah" Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Sarah M. Bagwell

F, b. 1 February 1865, d. 30 September 1903
     Sarah M. Bagwell was born on 1 February 1865 in Georgia.1 She was the daughter of Daniel Samuel Bagwell and Delaney Strickland.1 As of 23 October 1883,her married name was Brogdon. Sarah M. Bagwell married Noah R. Brogdon on 23 October 1883 at Hall County, Georgia. Sarah M. Bagwell died on 30 September 1903 at age 38. She was buried at Pitts City Cemetery, Pitts, Wilcox County, Georgia.

Citations

  1. [S1736] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1811, Family Number: 1679, Date: 1870.

Mary Amelia Bagwell

F, b. 24 July 1866, d. 4 November 1934
     Mary Amelia Bagwell was born on 24 July 1866 in Georgia.1,2 She was the daughter of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1,2 Mary Amelia Bagwell married Noah Brogdon in 1903. Mary Amelia Bagwell died on 4 November 1934 in Ben Hill County, Georgia, at age 68.

Citations

  1. [S1545] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilsons, Hall, Georgia; Enumeration District: 136; Supervisor District: 1; Page: 97A, Dwelling: 78, Family Number: 80, Date: 1880.
  2. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.

Albert Phillips Bagwell

M, b. 19 February 1869, d. 29 June 1942
     Albert Phillips Bagwell was born on 19 February 1869 in Hall County, Georgia.1,2 He was the son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 Albert Phillips Bagwell married Iola Leonora Darracott on 19 December 1895. Albert Phillips Bagwell died on 29 June 1942 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 73.2 He was buried at Alta Vista Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.2

Children of Albert Phillips Bagwell and Iola Leonora Darracott

Citations

  1. [S1737] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilson District, Hall County, Georgia; Page: 224, Dwelling: 1807, Family Number: 1675, Date: 1870.
  2. [S1999] Jr Eugene B Bagwell Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com.

Ida Caldonia Bagwell

F, b. 9 September 1872, d. 15 October 1941
     Ida Caldonia Bagwell was born on 9 September 1872 in Hall County, Georgia.1,2 She was the daughter of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland.1 Ida Caldonia Bagwell married Thomas Edward Darracott after 1885. Ida Caldonia Bagwell died on 15 October 1941 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 69.2 She was buried at Flat Creek Baptist Church Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.2

Citations

  1. [S1545] United States Federal Census, Washington, District of Columbia, Population Schedule: Wilsons, Hall, Georgia; Enumeration District: 136; Supervisor District: 1; Page: 97A, Dwelling: 78, Family Number: 80, Date: 1880.
  2. [S3921] Ida Caldonia Bagwell Darracott Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Allen Jefferson Gunter

M, b. 7 July 1838, d. 30 August 1918
Allen Jefferson Gunter and Sarah Emaline (Bagwell) Gunter
Photograph courtesy of Marcie Gunter Caudell
     Allen Jefferson Gunter was born on 7 July 1838 in Elbert County, Georgia.1 He married Sarah Emaline Bagwell, daughter of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland, on 7 March 1866.1 Allen Jefferson Gunter died on 30 August 1918 at age 80. He was buried at Center Grove Baptist Church, Cleveland, White County, Georgia.1

Children of Allen Jefferson Gunter and Sarah Emaline Bagwell

Citations

  1. [S6287] Email from Marcie Gunter Caudell dated August 2020 to Hunter Wayne Bagwell; Subject Line: Email - Marcie Gunter Caudell's Family.

Emma C. (Mary) Rice

F, b. 23 February 1862, d. 31 March 1898
     Emma C. (Mary) Rice was born on 23 February 1862 in Georgia. As of 14 November 1883,her married name was Bagwell. She married George Franklin Bagwell, son of Corporal Berry Bagwell and Phereby Emeline Strickland, on 14 November 1883 at Forsyth County, Georgia. Emma C. (Mary) Rice died on 31 March 1898 in Forsyth County, Georgia, at age 36.

Children of Emma C. (Mary) Rice and George Franklin Bagwell

Effie Mae Bagwell

F, b. 26 August 1884, d. 25 October 1965
     Effie Mae Bagwell was born on 26 August 1884 in Forsyth County, Georgia. She was the daughter of George Franklin Bagwell and Emma C. (Mary) Rice. As of after 1900,her married name was Benson. Effie Mae Bagwell married William Frank Benson Sr. after 1900. Effie Mae Bagwell died on 25 October 1965 in Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia, at age 81. She was buried at Alta Vista Cemetery, Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.

Beulah Bagwell

F, b. 1887, d. 1919
     Beulah Bagwell was born in 1887 in Georgia. She was the daughter of George Franklin Bagwell and Emma C. (Mary) Rice. Beulah Bagwell died in 1919 in Flowery Branch, Hall County, Georgia.

Willie M. Bagwell

F, b. 18 June 1889, d. 14 May 1975
     Willie M. Bagwell was born on 18 June 1889 in Georgia. She was the daughter of George Franklin Bagwell and Emma C. (Mary) Rice. Willie M. Bagwell died on 14 May 1975 in Atlanta, DeKalb County, Georgia, at age 85.

Mattie Bagwell

F, b. 1890, d. 1967
     Mattie Bagwell was born in 1890.1 She was the daughter of George Franklin Bagwell and Emma C. (Mary) Rice. As of 21 February 1917,her married name was Mooney. Mattie Bagwell married Clifford Candler Mooney on 21 February 1917 at Hall County, Georgia. Mattie Bagwell died in 1967 in Gainesville, Hall County, Georgia.1 She was buried at Memorial Park Cemetery, Hall County, Georgia.1

Citations

  1. [S4107] Mattie Bagwell Mooney Grave Stone, Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

George O. Bagwell

M, b. 4 April 1909, d. 28 September 1910
     George O. Bagwell was born on 4 April 1909 in Hall County, Georgia. He was the son of George Franklin Bagwell and Lena Meaders. George O. Bagwell died on 28 September 1910 in Hall County, Georgia, at age 1. He was buried at Flowery Branch Cemetery, Flowery Branch, Hall County, Georgia.

William (Bill) Thomas Watkins1

M, b. 11 August 1939, d. 30 September 2016
William Thomas Watkins
     William (Bill) Thomas Watkins was born on 11 August 1939 in Pike County, Alabama.1 He was the son of Thomas Norman Watkins and Annie Olean Driggers. William (Bill) Thomas Watkins married Nettie Jean Jinright, daughter of Louie Wilmer Jinright and Annie Lou Mullis, in October 1959 at Troy, Pike County, Alabama.1,2 William (Bill) Thomas Watkins married Martha Annalise Ruff, daughter of Jesse Samuel Ruff and Margie Nell, circa 1973 at Montgomery, Alabama. William (Bill) Thomas Watkins died on 30 September 2016 in Montgomery, Montgomery County, Alabama, at age 77.

Children of William (Bill) Thomas Watkins and Nettie Jean Jinright

Children of William (Bill) Thomas Watkins and Martha Annalise Ruff

Citations

  1. [S562] Interview, Lynda Watkins, November 26, 2008.
  2. [S2599] Email from William "Bud" Watkins dated August 2014 to Hunter Wayne Bagwell; Subject Line: Email: Watkins Family History.

Charles Nolen Watkins1

M, b. 24 July 1941, d. 3 December 1985
Charles Nolen Watkins
     Charles Nolen Watkins was born on 24 July 1941 in Pike County, Alabama.1 He was the son of Thomas Norman Watkins and Annie Olean Driggers. Charles Nolen Watkins married Jo Parker.1 Charles Nolen Watkins died on 3 December 1985 in Prattville, Alabama, at age 44.1 He was buried at Elba, Coffee County, Alabama.1

Children of Charles Nolen Watkins and Jo Parker

Citations

  1. [S562] Interview, Lynda Watkins, November 26, 2008.

Alma Crocker

F
     Alma Crocker married Charles Driggers, son of Charles D. Driggers and Mary Laurana Francis Otas Stewart, after 1921.

Child of Alma Crocker and Charles Driggers

Charles Bennie Driggers1

M, b. 1 February 1928, d. 8 March 1996
Left to Right: Charles and Charles Bennie 'Burson' Driggers
     Charles Bennie Driggers also went by the name of Burson.1 He was born on 1 February 1928. He was the son of Charles Driggers and Alma Crocker. Charles Bennie Driggers married Dorothy Jones.1 Served from May 7, 1946 to March 12, 1948 as a Sergeant First Class for the US Navy. Charles Bennie Driggers married Joyce Elizabeth Porter on 8 June 1991 at Greenville, Greenville County, South Carolina.1 Charles Bennie Driggers died on 8 March 1996 in Greenville, Greenville County, South Carolina, at age 68.1 He was buried at Graceland West Cemetery and Mausikeum, Greenville, Greenville County, South Carolina.

Children of Charles Bennie Driggers and Dorothy Jones

Citations

  1. [S2344] Email from Charles Driggers dated January 2014 to Hunter Bagwell - Subject Line: Charles Bennie Driggers.
  2. [S5414] Email from Charles Driggers dated June 2019 to Hunter Bagwell - Subject Line: Charles Bennie Driggers.

William Norman Watkins1

M
William Norman Watkins
     William Norman Watkins is the son of William (Bill) Thomas Watkins and Nettie Jean Jinright.2 William Norman Watkins married Donna Joy Barnes before 1981.1

Child of William Norman Watkins and Donna Joy Barnes

Citations

  1. [S2599] Email from William "Bud" Watkins dated August 2014 to Hunter Wayne Bagwell; Subject Line: Email: Watkins Family History.
  2. [S562] Interview, Lynda Watkins, November 26, 2008.